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Andrea: Discussion about her desire to stay in Woodbury

Discussion in 'Don't Dead, Open Inside' started by richonnelove, May 7, 2016.

  1. richonnelove

    richonnelove Ricktator

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    All those points you made make it seem as if Andrea became aware of these facts at the same time the viewers did.

    The viewers knew where he got the heads. She didn't until after. She never saw the military guy to be able to recognize him. Only Michonne did. Andrea would not have known the head belonged to the military guy.

    As for Merle and Daryl's fight. That was not during the initial fight scene where he explained what it was about and she admitted to liking it. So, yes as far as she knew he was telling the truth when he explained it was fixed. When she saw Daryl, that's when things started to hit the fan and she was being forced to confront things.

    As for Maggie and Glen, she didn't know they were there until after.

    The fight between Michonne and the Governor. She doesn't know what happened. All she saw was him holding his little girl he was desperately trying to save in his arms crying and Michonne about to kill him. She never intended to kill Michonne. Just try to intimidate her enough not to kill him. Instead of explaining anything, Michonne left.

    More than anything, Andrea chose a life and security for herself over Michonne. Which is reasonable in the circumstances. Yes Michonne saved her life and Michonne knows herself and trusts her own instincts, but Andrea doesn't know her long enough to pick this mostly closed off woman she met a few months ago over surviving in a thriving community where she can actually have a semblence of a life. Michonne was a friend to Andrea but did not hold a place in Andrea's heart like say Amy. Michonne was a true friend, but Andrea did not realize that until it was too late. Like many women I have encountered, they would choose their new lover/men over a friend of a few months in a heart beat. So Andrea is not unlike many women today or through the annals of history in that sense.

    What Michonne was asking Andrea to give up (security, a home, community, survival in some comfort) with just hunches and no concrete evidence to say he is evil, just possibly eccentric in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, was a lot. All for a friendship of a few months with no guarantee of survival? Who is to say Michonne didn't just dislike the guy and was uncomfortable around many people and wanted to be self reliant? Every non-concrete evidence Michonne brought up was shot down. Like the we are not allowed to leave one (it was true) but at the time she saw they were allowing them to leave and Michonne was allowed to walk out. Andrea didn't find out they hunted down Michonne until after Michonne told her at the prison. A friend's hunches are fine and well when survival is not at stake. When such things are, it's not unreasonable to want solid proof over choosing to suffer needlessly.

    Yes Michonne saved her life, but she could say the same for the Governor. Andrea would not have survived longer out there, Michonne or no Michonne.

    After she saw Daryl and became aware of TF beef with the Governor, one can say her eyes were starting to be opened, but not before. Just because we the viewers knew, did not mean Andrea knew. She may have been uncomfortable and sensed some things were off but like any human being we try to explain away things all the time to benefit our comfort/wants. Does it make it sensible or right? No, but it's the reason I gave her the benefit of the doubt and understood where she may have been coming from before she started getting proof. After TF straight up told her what happened and what he did - that's when her decision to stay with him became outright stupid and her pride (thinking she has the power to fix things) and self interests (wanting to make the Governor good so she can have her cake and eat it too despite concrete evidence to the contrary) made it apparent there we no excuses left for her excuses now.

    Look at TF in ASZ at first. Rick and some of the others questioned everything. Deanna and Aaron tried to reassure them even though some things were questionable at first. It turned out well. They weren't sure but Michonne wanted to try as she needed it. She was tired of being out there. Michonne wasn't sure but Andrea wanted to try. She needed it. She was tired of being out there. It didn't turn out well. Andrea still kept trying after getting concrete evidence and that was her fatal mistake.
     
  2. Doctor Grimes

    Doctor Grimes Not Your Governor
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    Here's a thread to discuss Andrea and her desire to stay in Woodbury over go with Michonne.
     
  3. Jenna Alaki

    Jenna Alaki " I'm gonna try "
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    You have stated this beautifully. Nothing to add.
     
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    box5angel The New Mrs. Grimes
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    I didn't know exactly where to put this but since it's about Andrea, I guess it's a good place. Not sure if it's been discussed before or not.

    Does anyone know why they decided to kill Andrea and not continue with her storyline in the comics? Were they going to go that route and then changed their minds or knew from the get go that they were going to kill her off? Of course, I'm glad they did kill her off since she and Rick are together in the GN, and Richonne would have never happened.
     
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    I never blamed Andrea for wanting to stay in Woodbury. She did a lot of questionable things, but that wasn't one of them. A place of safety, versus the previous 8 months she spent with a silent Michonne and walkers for company, while sick.. Woodbury surely looked worlds better than that.