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Discussion in '6x16: Last Day on Earth' started by Doctor Grimes, Apr 4, 2016.

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Now that you've viewed the finale, has it changed your mind about who is getting Lucilled?

  1. Daryl

    27 vote(s)
    31.8%
  2. Glenn

    23 vote(s)
    27.1%
  3. Abraham

    25 vote(s)
    29.4%
  4. A-A-Ron

    5 vote(s)
    5.9%
  5. Eugene

    3 vote(s)
    3.5%
  6. Rick

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Carl

    1 vote(s)
    1.2%
  8. Michonne

    1 vote(s)
    1.2%
  9. Maggie (Gleggie baby)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Sasha

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Rosita

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Doctor Grimes

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    Agreed. Also Abe is going to be instrumental in All Out War. I can feel it.
     
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    When Glenn said "it's going to go wrong out here" in 6.15, I wonder if that was any foreshadowing?
     
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    short term: them getting kidnapped.
    slightly longer term: Everything that happened in 6.16.
    beyond that, I can't say for certain.
     
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    LOL this made me laugh, I had to share some humor in the thread bc it's too funny. Norman is so crazy :roflmao:
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    That is funny.
     
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    Is it just me or does Negan flick is eyes to the left (to the right of the victim) when he says, "You can cry"?

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    (x)

    Who was to the right of Abe?

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    Michonne.

    Who was the right of Daryl?

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    Rosita.


    Just things that make you go "hmm."
     
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    The evidence is piling high against Daryl, yet I'm still somehow expecting them to throw out all logic and kill Glenn anyway.
     
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    Someone messaged me on Tumblr and said it's Abraham because during TTD, Gimple said fans would try to "Zapruder" the scene (referring to the Kennedy assassination video filmed by Zapruder) and Kirkman said that was a hint. Zapruder's first name is Abraham.

    I wonder if that was staged though, or of Kirkman was trolling. Either way, it is a mark in Abe's column.
     
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    I will say this. Whilst I realise my name might show a bias and it's true Glenn is my favourite character, If they kill Glenn the continuity errors would make it hard for me to keep watching.

    I don't care about the cliffhanger, I even think Glenn getting the bat is a suitably important enough way for Glenn to go.
    But my biggest flaw (and even curse) when watching TV and Movies is I notice the little things. As people have pointed out with the lighting, positioning and with Negan Acknowledging a person either side of Glenn, Glenn dying would be a continuity error.
     
  10. The final POV shots JDM did on his own without any of the other cast therefore any "tells" he gives I think is irrelevant. I don't think the show will be consistent in its continuity in this regard.

    Basically, JDM just did his own thing, looked around, try to add character to the scene but it doesn't actually hint at who dies. Position is irrelevant, they'll just choose someoene regardless if it makes sense.
     
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    Perhaps. But I would hope they would have directed JDM to do certain things to keep with continuity. I hope we can give them enough credit that they would know who they were going to kill when they made it, and made sure he killed them and not effectively someone else.
     
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    Nicotero did say he was very explicit in directing that scene so JDM would have the characters in mind. That's what makes me think JDM's eye movements mean something. It looks like he's addressing people. I guess we'll see.
     
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    Yep. That's why I hate the cliffhanger, people are gonna latch onto every word of dialogue ever said as an evidence for another 6 months. And 99.9% of it is gonna be stretching it.

    I can just feel it's Abe, BUT what was the point of him not getting his comic book death if he was just gonna die 2 (3) episodes later? It can be argued that it was done because they just don't want to kill any more major characters, but you don't do that if you're not gonna continue his arc. I think we need to see Abe fight in All-Out War and maybe be a major casualty during the war.

    To be honest, the only piece of evidence that I find possibly reliable is POV shots throughout the episode. It seems like POV shots were from only one person (first in the truck and then during the line-up). So if the person getting Lucilled is not a person from the truck, that would be breaking their own choice of how they chose to show the episode. And since Daryl and Michonne are obviously not gonna die and I don't see Rosita dying, then it only leaves us with Glenn.
     
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    I think Abe will be instrumental in AOW too which is why I believe he's a red herring (well a redhead herring). Kirkman saying Zapruder is a clue only confirms the trolling, plus Abe's shoehorned in convos.

    Gimple said he's been thinking about this death a long time. Abe just doesn't fit that pattern. He has none of the Gimple-isms surrounding him.

    Glenn and Daryl have weird Gimple breadcrumbs all over them, but I think Daryl's are more subtle, but significant.

    I just think it has to be Daryl. When he got knocked unconscious by Dwight, it was with a baseball bat, he came to consciousness 3 times before waking up (like the van shots). Daryl is the the one who meddled with Negan's property (Tina).
     
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    Clues are definitely there and it would defnitely make sense if what was in the show was everything that mattered. BUT let's be honest, AMC is not gonna let Gimple kill off their cashcow. No way. Lately I've been noticing less and less "If Daryl dies, we riot" people, but they're still out there. They buy Daryl merchandise and they're not going anywhere any time soon.
     
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  16. Hopefully there's continuity but I don't have much faith.

    For example, the last shot we see before the POV stuff is of Rick and what appears to be Negan's shadow moving to Rick's left. Sasha, Carl, Aaron and Eugene are there.

    However, he the next part appears to be motioning to Carl from the other side of the line when he delivers his "cut the boys eye out" line... but that doesn't make much sense as he should be near Carl.

    I guess an explanation is that when we saw that last clip of Rick, there was some more off-screen movement but then why show the shadow of Negan? It's all really weird.
     
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    If my theory (and Austins interview statements) about Dwight wanting Daryl alive are true then I think this could hold true for Glenn too and if that's the case....then I think Abe is lucielled. I totally agree he would help in AOW but why would Negan want to keep someone alive who he knows is strong. The goodbye scene with Eugene and I think Sasha will get Michonnes comic arc.
     
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    Carol is most likely getting Michonne's arc since she's now on the Kingdom's doorstep. I do think Sasha will end up getting Holly's at some point (which upsets me, she deserves better).
     
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    I completely agree. They are definitly there. All actors have a fan base but Normans are the most intense. Before the finale Normans Instagram started getting flooded with millions of the "we will riot" photos. Negan could have said "batter up Daryl" and everything lol and the premiere happens and it's someone else. AMC just likes their money too much. I desperately want Carol to die but I know it will never happen anytime soon.
     
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    i think the victim of negan will be someone who is near carl because :[​IMG]here negan is surprised that a kid like carl doesn't cry so maybe he wants him to cry .