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Donatello of the ZA (Morgan Appreciation thread)

Discussion in 'Morgan / Lennie James' started by MamaGrimes, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. MamaGrimes

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    He saved Rick in the beginning.....
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    went a little crazy in the middle
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    and picked up some mad skills on the road to reuniting with Rick
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    Show your appreciation for our resident Zen Master here!

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    Morgan is still super interesting to me. I understand his popularity has taken a nosedive recently, but hey, at least he's different than the usual "shoot 'em up" crew.
     
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    I was so worried that the first thread for him would be a hate thread lol. Morgan is such an interesting character and I'm glad they did something different with him. His character takes a while to appreciate and I can't deny that I get frustrated with him as well when watching. It makes me appreciate him all the more and I hope Lennie sticks around for a while.
     
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    I get Morgan because when you come from a life of murdering everyone you see in your path it is hard to resist the impulse to kill anyone. The fact that he is very much capable and dangerous but restrains it is interesting by the very fact that something is going to make him kill again. And I'm curious what is his breaking point of his philosophy. It reminds me of Bruce Lee in the Big Boss where he made a promise he would never fight again and then something happens and he's just a kick ass machine.
     
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    I'm waiting for the big comeback.
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    I still like Morgan, but he must realize what worked for a lone man and a goat won't always work for a community. I think I'm more irritated at the GA for thinking all motives and thinking in this show is either black or white, good or bad and are quick to put ALL the blame at Morgan's feet. But he will redeem himself...before they kill him! ;)
     
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    No hate from me. I find Morgan to be compelling, complex and not cookie cutter. Yes, it was frustrating when he wanted to 'save' wolfie but I'm hoping he'll get his redemption scene very very soon. I love Lennie!!

    THIS...that's what I'm waiting for. You know it's gonna happen.
     
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    I wasn't in favour of his ideals in 6x1-6x2, but 6x4 revealed a deeper look into his life, and I loved this statement right here. Everything that happened to Morgan is on replay in his mind. He hasn't let it go, or more like he's afraid to let it go. I think he feels if he does - then all the choices he made - especially those filled with regrets - this is his way to make amends. I do think there will be some medium to his philosophies.
     
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    I actually hope he doesn't kill again. I only hope that he becomes okay with other people having to possibly kill. Morgan can just keep beating up people with his stick, and I'll be fine. He just has to stop being so preachy.
     
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    I love that there is a thread devoted to Morgan. He is such an interesting character. Thanks!
    • When I first learnt about the Walking Dead, Morgan brought a pulse and intensity of sadness of the whole ZA outbreak into the pilot episode, alongside Rick Grimes/AL. THIS made me keep watching three years ago (I started late)
    • I love how they had Rick on the radio to Morgan in S1. It made you long for a character w/o even seeing him on screen.
    • I love that he is true to himself and what he believes. He stood up in that church in front of everyone and was the only one that objected to the plan. My respect for him grew 100-fold in that scene.
    • (Generally, if you aren't a badass, the GA don't like you. Or if you aren't on board w/ the main group agenda...they hate you. Not EVERYONE is going to. This would be a BORING and narrow-minded world if it was like this). I love that Morgan is speaking an alternative vibe because he brings a needed difference to the feel of the show and Team Family. It has annoyed me at times, because we kept seeing the consequences of his actions show up negatively. But I was converted :rickgrin: after "No Way Out". Had that Wolf not been captured, Denise would not have made it back to the infirmary; she may have been in the wrong part of town. If he'd killed them when he encountered them in the forest, though they made ish go bad, maybe Ron would have outright killed my pouchy Carl Grimes. Anyway, I love me some annoying Morgan philosophy.
    • I love that he is an honest man that tells Rick Grimes how he feels "I'm a killer Rick. I am, and you are, too". He openly acknowledges his philosophy is not perfect. Nothing says it more than in the season 6 finale. http://thewalkingdead.tumblr.com/post/142395704999/full-circle
    • I love that he was that fresh and focused pair of eyes while people were distracted by stuff going down in ASZ.
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    • Lenny James plays him so well. Morgan has had minimal interaction w/ the crew but in those moments, you can palpate the chemistry; heck, even w/ people he is trying not to kill. LOL.
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    Morgan literally lowers my blood pressure.

    He's so fascinating. He's lost so much and been more isolated than anyone else on the show, and he falls so low as to want to clear every human life he comes across, but then holds onto the entirely opposite principle of preserving every human life. It brings him back to something of himself, and he seeks out the only other person he knew, and sees his friend and other people suffering under the weight of their conscious, under what this world has made them and he tries to show them a different way, the way that helped him. He might be wrong in this thinking, and when it is put to the test he throws away the thing that he has used as a mental/emotional lifeline in order to save another person.

    Also I die every time he smiles because it's just the most precious thing in the whole world.

     
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    I liked Morgan from the start, then when I watched Clear, I felt sad and my heart was breaking for him, what he had gone through, started to really like him, yeah, he went a little cray cray but he lost his son and well, wife that he couldn't kill. A lot guilt he felt and carried. Understandable. Then when Morgan reappeared again I was like Damn!! This man is not only fine, but a bad ass Zen Jedi!:hearts: I love that is to me anyway seems soft spoken, doesn't need to yell or scream to make a point. And when he smiles or laughs, th to rare times. The man is on fire.:hot::dragon:
     
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    Somehow I missed this thread. I've had frustrations with Morgan (same as I did with Pacifist Ty), but ultimately, I get him. The irony is I am a peace loving pacifist like him but realize he is a bit of a dreamer in the ZA if he thinks this will work against their enemies. The thing is I don't think he has to fully give up his ideal he just needs to meet situations as they are while still working to promote peace. If you have to go to war that is a harsh reality but you can't live in denial. You also can't let go of your vision.
     
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    Ultimately, I understand his philosophy but I wholeheartedly disagree with it. I don't think the ZA is a place for pacifists, honestly. We know what kind of world they live in, and pacifism doesn't have a place in it. Period. However, that doesn't take away from what he brings to the show so I can give him credit in that respect. He does offer up differing opinions and alternatives, which we need sometimes because it would be boring having to watch as everyone agrees with each other on everything all the time.

    Not to mention the fact that Lennie is talented enough to round Morgan out by bring those little nuances to the character, so I don't mind watching him on my TV screen.
     
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    I believe Morgan will kill someone, anyone if he deems necessary and an absolute threat.When 1 of the saviors was relishing torturing Carol and eventually going to kill her Morgan didn't think twice. Giving someone the option to make a decision on his part and standing by who he is. However I believe if someone chooses poorly then they will lose by Morgan's hand. He has seen a lot and had to kill his wife and son, I'm sure that is a large part of thinking.
     
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    I LOVE Morgan!!

    I just "get " Morgan and have loved him since he found Rick in "Days Gone By" and essentially saved his life. I agree, he has been the most isolated character out of TF and I was so damned thrilled with his return in " Clear " it wasn't even funny. He was so lost and myriad in his grief, pain and crazy! Brilliant acting by Lenny and Andy that is for sure!!!! And then showing up at the end of "Conquer " after Rick kills Pete and his "Rick?" Classic!!


    I may not agree with all of Morgan's "all life is precious " philosophy and I can see how this mindset doesn't really coincide with a ZA, and drives fans crazy (many finding him judgmental with Rick and trying to force Rick to his way of thinking) hence his drop in poularity. However, this way of thinking is what literally brought Morgan back from his cray and darkness after losing Duane and his wife and having to put both down. And he wants Rick and TF not to suffer from any guilt and be "cleared." And Morgan has been isolated for so long up until he met his mentor in "Heres Not Here". He didnt have the luxury or support like Rick had with TF to fall back on and didn't believe he was deserving of joining Rick at the prison because he was "weak" when Rick asked him to come back with him in "Clear." He couldn't see past his guilt and grief and punished himself. I can't fault him entirely for clinging to this mind set which helped him heal. And it brings a nice levity albeit perhaps somewhat misguided way of thinking to Rick and TFs "Kill or be killed" way of doing things. Morgan at heart is not a pacifist and that of a killer. He will at some point have to reconcile both, like Rick had to make adjustments with taking lives when he swore to "protect and serve" as Officer Friendly/ deputy sheriff. Lenny plays Morgan brilliantly and I am glad he is able to convey an alternative line of thought with TF. It would be not truthful if everyone agreed with TF. Tyreese didn't, Glenn didnt kill a human until the Savior compound, Carol is having major issues with kiling, and King Zeke thinks along the lines as Morgan in keeping his people safe and not rocking the boat with Negan and the Saviors.

    I think once Morgan finds out about Glenn/Abe, his killer side will emerge again and we will see his conflict with trying to to remain a pacifist and knowing Negan has to go at the same time! (There is that pesky little detail with the jail cell so we shall see) Morgan is a dreamer in a sense, a kind, and very smart and intelligent /saavy man, but he can be ruthless, and protective. See how he rigged Ricks entire town with booby traps and pilfered a ton of those weapons by himself! And he is no joke as Yoda with a stick! :morgan:I am looking foward to seeing how his journey plays out! Morgan like Zeke intrigues me. (I can do without them both following Carol around like a puppy and getting dissed on, but that is for another topic entirely). :andytea: And yes to more Rick and Morgan scenes. Morgan nd Rick are so good together as is the chemistry between my two favorite British men, Andy and Lenny.
     
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    I found this article and I had to laugh, he should come to my house:lol:
    Lennie is so cool
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