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Discussion/Meta Just Shut the Hell UP! Stop Negan & his Monologuing Thread

Discussion in 'Negan / Jeffrey Dean Morgan' started by Armte, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. Armte

    Armte I Drink and I Know Things
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    I will admit that I was one of the people looking forward to the arrival of Negan, especially after I heard he was being played by JDM. I may have secretly lusted and had impure thoughts about Regonne or Nechonne. I will bear this shame with a scarlet N. Anyhow that has all changed with the Season 7 premiere.

    There are not enough words in the english lexicon to describe my hatred for Negan. His treatment of Rick, the glee in which he killed Abe and Glenn :gabe: it was all too much for me to take. And he did all this killing and torture while constantly talking, doing laps up and down the line up, waiving that damn bat and smiling like a freaking fool. Toward the 2nd half hour I was screaming "JUST SHUT THE HELL UP".

    The TV version of Negan is just so EXTRA, he would be a part of any "doing too much team". If he was supposed to be a character we "love to hate" Gimple missed the mark with his supreme level of douchery, assholeness, dickhead and penis wrinkle behavior.

    I need this character to die like yesterday and I need Rick to fulfill his promise to kill this ASSHOLE!

    This thread is for like minded individuals who wish Negan was already 6 feet under and there is no redemption for this character and their happy ending for Negan will be a shot of Rick holding his python against Negan temple and firing :negan: :bang::yell: or Rick snatching lucille from Negan and beating him to death. :dienegan::dienegan::dienegan::dienegan::dienegan:

    Who is here for Negan burning for all of eternity! :hot::hot::hot::hot::hot::hot::hot::hot:

    I know there are others who agree with me...cough cough...my favorite dude @Silas (Not a Dude)

    ETA - Shout out to @MamaGrimes who gave me the idea for the thread TITLE!
     
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    *sets up lawn chair* :hot:
     
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    I hated GN Negan with a fiery passion. :hot:I think I may have braced myself a little too much for TV Negan's fuckery since he hasn't hit the same buttons as GN Negan, but I think over the season I can be converted to this side.
     
  4. Mullet of Lies

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    So here for this thread.

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    I love Negan. He is awesome and his lines were funny albeit horrible in light of the situation

    Lol, I clearly do not belong in this thread
     
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    Oh God Bless this thread. I need to open a drink and kick up my feet because I think this might be my new hiding spot for this season.

    @Armte you summed up my feels so perfectly. Negan is like one of those people in an infomercial. Except instead of over-dramatically dropping containers on their faces or spilling their milk...Negan exaggerates murder.

    It doesn't even feel good to hate him, like it should with a good villain. I dread the next time he speaks because it'll likely never stop. In the words of my grandma, he's got "diarrhea of the mouth".
     
  7. Armte

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    I am glad you realized this Canuck girl, you saved me from having to kick your booty out :lol:
     
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    YESSSSS!!! Thank you @Armte! I'm setting up my cushioned Adirondack chair right next to @Clutterbuck because this thread will be on my go to list this season (and the next and the next and the #@#*& next).

    Prior to the F*cking Tsunami of publicity and shoving this character and JDM down our collective throats, I was a fan of the IDEA of Negan and am about to finish a VERY long Fan fic featuring him (but he's much cooler in my fic..just saying).

    Prior to watching NR and JDM's nauseating, motorcycle jacket wearing bromance play out in every freaking group interview during the hiatus and beyond, I was intrigued with the possibility of watching GN Negan come to life and see how his bizarre relationship with Rick and Carl played out on screen. And, yes, god help me, I pined for Nechonne interactions. I even created a crackship thread!:omgno:

    No more!

    I was already 85.67% OVER Negan and the Hype train to Hell by Saturday night. By Sunday night, after hearing my cold heart crack in my chest, I was 110% done with this over the top, CHEESY, PULPY, CHATTY, psycho, infantile bully. JDM was no longer attractive but instead a too skinny, smarmy actor who had bitten off more than he could chew (and good christ he can chew a lot).

    His interactions with Rick were not tense, provoking or titillating. They were misery porn and 'aren't we SHOCKING' scenes filmed to try to bring TWD back to water cooler relevance. These scenes were saved only by the outstanding acting by Andy and nothing else.

    I know his gleeful jester of mayhem personality is GN canon but it does NOT translate well to basic cable and I'm not sure where exactly it would translate to be honest.

    I could rant for another hour but I have to get back to work. I will return, I promise!
     
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    Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss.

    Negan better die in AOW, I can't see Rick letting him live.
     
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    Lennykae Scott Gimple is the Janet Evanovich of TV.
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    I love this thread title :lol:



    I want Carl to say this to him. :carl:
     
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    God I love this thread. No one was ever on my level of Negan hatred and it seemed like everywhere people either LOVED him or said they at least thought he was a "good villain" or "funny."

    It might be my massive Glenn love that ruined him for me forever but GODFUCKING DAMMIT the way fanboys jerk off to his "schoolyard bully that just learned the word fuck" routine is mind-boggling. Talking about how his "twisted logic" makes a kind of sense :| he's just a run-of-the-mill tyrant who cusses, smiles a lot, and swings his over-compensation stick around. His dialogue is just "how many times can I fit the word fuck in here" except with the censorship nonsense the TV writers had to get ever so slightly more creative.

    Nicotero's comparison to Jared Leto's Joker was fucking hilarious because who would drag them self like that???? Leto's Joker was annoying as shit too!

    I'll have to come back with some of those excessive murder fantasies...
     
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    I genuinely enjoy GN Negan. When he showed up he was a breath of fresh air - he brought a weird, twisted humor to such a dark story. But this Negan is just a disgusting sadist. Like what kinda of 50 Shades of Negan bullshit did I sign up for?

    I know that Negan is still very much alive and well in the GN, but I hope for the sake of the show, he gets the original AOW death he was supposed to have. Kirkman can keep him around in the GN, just let us be free of this mess of a TV adaptation.
     
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    Yeah, this character is an absolute, chump-a$$, first class, psycho.

    And it gave me GREAT pleasure in peeping the fact that he was severely aggravated by Rick+TF refusal to be broken and submit fully. He was almost out of his element, hence the over-the-top shenanigans.

    He may not die, but he for DAMN sure will have his power taken from him. I look forward to seeing him neutered. If he does get killed, it will be the cherry on the top of cake. But honestly, seeing Negan totally powerless might be even more satisfying than his demise. I found it laughable how he mocked Rick for thinking he was the shit, when that was total projection on his part. Negan is the one that thinks he is the shit and gets off on power and he just assumes Rick is the same way.

    Anyway, I am here for Neutered Negan. SOON.
     
  15. Walkingonsunshine

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    Great OP @Armte! I know Danai and Andy have called him charming but I'm still waiting to see that part. All I saw was an annoying character drone on and on about nothing.

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    I felt that way even about his season finale speech though so I shouldn't be surprised the premiere was even worse. I'm not looking forward to the Sanctuary bottle episode and his waning on about people respecting him and bowing to him.

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    I'm going to get judged for this but I like Negan. GN Negan, anyway. I think he's funny and charismatic. I hate to admit it but that's how I feel. I enjoy him for the villian that he is. And no I don't think he's ~misunderstood~, and I don't think any of his actions should be excused. He's a horrible human being, flat out. He's a bad guy (even though it looks like RK is trying to make him a hero in the GN. Hopefully that's a misdirect).

    TV Negan however, I don't know... So far I hate how they made TV Negan so much more vile than GN Negan (GN Negan is vile too of course, but TV Negan is so much more extra and psychopathic). It looses the "charismatic" element to his character for me if he's just going to be full on psycho in the show. However, I do think TV Negan is funny (though not nearly as funny as I find GN Negan). Maybe I'm a horrible person, but I sometimes laughed when watching 701 with just how he pronounced words and made his facial expressions. I think JDM is doing an okay job portraying the character so far.

    I guess I can wait a see if TV Negan starts to form more into GN Negan as the season goes on, but still, I want him to die a most painful death and I really hope Rick kills him eventually. I don't care if RK is trying his hardest to redeem GN Negan rn, TV Negan needs to die in the show.
     
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    *Gulp, nervously entering this thread* So, I'm somewhere in the middle. I actually thought JDM did a great job bringing the sadistic, smart, fuckwad that is Negan to life. Again, I'm not a GN reader so I didn't have anything to compare JDM'S Negan to, but I totally bought Negan's shtick, as planned and designed to destroy and emasculate Rick. I think Negan had to be over the top because he knew that Rick was formidable and wouldn't go down easily.

    Now, with that said, I thought the whole side trip with Negan and Rick in the RV was complete bullshit and served absolutely nothing but to delay the reveal of the LV. And yes, Negan's monologue during all of that was getting on my nerves! I also agree that the more of these monologues Negan does the more annoying its going to be! Negan needs to be smart in his insanity and not just brutal.

    The commercials and hype was a NO! Just too too much! I wanted to take a pneumatic livestock stunner to the foreheads of AMC's advertising Execs if they didn't stop! (that was a joke of course and not to be taken as a real threat lol!)
     
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    C'mon now! You can't really blame the actor tho. Yes his marketing has been annoying but it's not his fault. He didn't write this shit. He was already well known actor (Supernatural & Grey's anyone). Fans of of the shows he did have all said he was a really sweet, cool guy.

    I thought this forum used to be cool bc other ones sucked but I'm starting to my mind...
     
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  19. Armte

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    My OP only mentions my hate for the character of "Negan", my OP even mentions being a fan of JDM. All my reasons listed are about the character of Negan not JDM. This thread is not about hating JDM, it's about the character of Negan and what he has done to characters that we love. If you are a fan of Negan there are appreciation threads for Negan and the actor JDM.

    I think we are entitled to feel upset that Negan killed Glenn and Abe and tortured Rick mercilessly.
     
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    No judgment here. I totally get the appeal of GN Negan. As I said in my post, I wrote a fic featuring him so, trust me, I get the charismatic bad boy appeal. As you stated, TV Negan is just SO much more as far as the badness goes and it's too much. Now that I got my initial rant out, I will admit that I'm here for the duration and will pass final judgment at the end of the season but for now? He annoys the shit out of me.

    I adored JDM's previous work but I'm not 100% convinced he's got a grasp on how to portray this character....YET. As he gains time in Negan's boots, that may improve but, for now, I'm not feeling his performance. He's got the chops...I've seen it in his other work but I'm not on board with his portrayal.

    Don't let this one thread chase you away from this forum as we have dozens of other threads to keep you entertained, ones that are far more positive than this one! Negan has an active appreciation thread and there are even Nechonne and Regonne crackship threads that celebrate the potential Negan, Michonne and Rick have for delicious interactions. We have something for everyone but, yes, occasionally, venting threads are created to contain the rage that pops up now and then.