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Discussion/Meta Negan's Sadism & Sexual Subtext

Discussion in 'Negan / Jeffrey Dean Morgan' started by Doctor Grimes, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. balladsinthebluegrass

    balladsinthebluegrass Hold to things that are bright.
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    Ugggghhhhh this is exactly it, captured in a few images. It looks like he's swinging his dick around. :dale: The way he arches his back, the level at which he holds the bat... ugh. Ugh.

    Negan is one sick fuck.
     
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  2. Doctor Grimes

    Doctor Grimes Not Your Governor
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    It really is torture porn. Like, people use that to just mean an orgy of violence on television, but with the way all of this is framed, it's hard not to see it as actual porn.
     
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    Agreed. Negan is clearly enjoying what he's doing.
     
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    Geez, this just makes me physically ill. I thought I wanted this sick, twisted puppy dead before, but now it's on a whole new level. I was literally squirming in my seat throughout all of the interaction with Rick because it was just so uncomfortable and sick. I just kept thinking it's too much. When is it going to end? It was beyond trying to break the group but especially Rick. He just seemed to derive so much pleasure from it all, and he just wouldn't shut the hell up about it. I can't wait for the tables to turn and Rick and TF dismantles Negan and his Saviors bit by bit until finally he's the ones on his knees powerless, defanged, begging, and hopefully ending with a red-handled machete in his head. I can't tell you how much I'm really looking forward to that episode.:negan::chop::grumpy:
     
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    On repeated rewatch, it struck me how much JDM threw himself into this part of the role physically. Negan actually has to catch his breath and pace himself after Abe, it's literally so disgusting. Would love to know if that was scripted or an actor add-in.
    Yeah. If you think about it though, what would happen to all the creepy men and women of the world who no longer have modern distractions like the internet, TV, drinking, friends, fuck buddies, prostitutes etc to satisfy unconventional urges? Add into that the need to fight for survival and power and it's probably unrealistic that Team Rick haven't run into more creepy groups and leaders than they have already. It's interesting to see the psychological element become more sadistic as the show goes on too:

    Shane: An antagonist in the protagonist role until he got too power hungry. Sexually aggressive.
    Governor: Angry at the world "loser to leader" type who was actually quite sexually successful despite psychotic tendencies.
    Claimers: Sexual deviants, rapists, kept to a code that was customised to their violence.
    Terminus: Also kept to a code customised to their violence but as a result of intense sexual trauma and violation (oh wow, they were the inverted version of the Claimers!)
    Dawn: Perverted corrupt authority (I guess there's a subversion here with a woman being in charge, and simultaneously allowing rape/sexual assault to happen while trying to protect those around her??)
    Pete: Not a leader but in a position of importance (surgeon), his domestic abuse was enabled through the leader's complacency.
    Negan: Like a horrible combination of all of this and more.
     
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    I agree with everything here. I cannot understand how some people try to deny this, I mean it's pretty obvious how much joy he has from killing, making others submit or suffer. First I thought he was just panting after the LC scene because, well it's not easy physically to beat someone to death (yuck) but his body language did suggest something more. The way he behaves with Rick says everything, coming up close to his face while speaking, and also his line about Daryl and the way he looks at him....

    The " You don't kill them, not till you at least try a little." I understood it in a way that he wants to break Daryl, but it can easily be understood differently, especially how he makes a significance about Daryl. I mean "You don't kill them" yet he just killed Glenn and Abraham.
     
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    Negan's actual penis is microscopic. I've always said this since the character was introduced. He's just so weak and pathetic to me. He tries so hard to be important and over-compensating for his shortcomings. He's the very definition of weakness and bitch-ass-ness. It's the most unattractive thing I ever witnessed in a man. Negan is not sexy, strong, masculine....all the things that Rick is (without trying mind you, he just is). And the fact that so many grown men see Rick as weak and Negan as strong let's me know that the majority of men have no idea what actual masculinity looks like (which explains a lot). When I see Negan, my body goes completely dry (soft nipples and all). But Rick....lawd!! Every time that man is on my screen, I'm literally sitting in my own juices.
     
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    Wow. I absolutely, LOVE Negan to a point that is not entirely healthy. I have almost every bit of Negan related merchandise I've ever found. And I cannot figure out how anyone can deny the full pleasure the man gets from the torture, pain, brutality, and breaking he does of people. He is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, inarguably, a sexual sadist and a seriously twisted man. I've never understood how so many people can justify pretty much any of his actions in the GN either. Again, I love him. I also think he deserves to die in a way that is fitting of him. It won't be pleasant.
     
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