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Ratings down despite no World Series competition [Ratings]

Discussion in '7x03: The Cell' started by Doctor Grimes, Nov 8, 2016.

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  1. lovingdead

    lovingdead The New Mrs. Grimes

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    I don't want this show to suffer. I do hope AMC pays attention to which episodes resonate with the audience. Hopefully the next few episodes will make everyone invested again. I think people do want to see TF again. I know I do.
     
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    Mischonne Nestled in Rick's Beard

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    I also think Westworld is a contributing factor to lower ratings. Now there's an alternative for viewers who like sci fi/horror.

    Even I've watch the show and I find it intriguing but I don't really care about anybody. I just like the mystery of it.
     
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    lovingdead The New Mrs. Grimes

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    I'm digging WestWorld even though it's confusing. I still prioritize TWD but can understand if others don't.
     
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    Mischonne Nestled in Rick's Beard

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    Me too. My loyalty is to walking dead.

    Yeah it's confusing and for me no one is truly likable.
     
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    Do you think they will be higher or lower?
     
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    I think they should've made episode 4 episode 3 and episode 3 episode 4.
    Audience would be surprised to see the condition of Daryl and get to see the emotional impact of episode 1 sooner.

    Then episode with the sanctuary and Daryl could be a flashback to see what happened to him and might pick up more viewers.

    I think the ratings is down to the show pacing and TPTB not understanding what the audience wants to see and in what order.
     
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    Mischonne Nestled in Rick's Beard

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    I hope the ratings increase. I want to see the end of a Richonne's story.
     
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    Tisha Grimes Stay Strong
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    Not sure. I just want to see if it is the bottle episodes that are killing the ratings. Or if it's the show in general.
     
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    lovingdead The New Mrs. Grimes

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    Do we know ratings for last year's bottle episodes? I'm not sure if I'm surprised or not that a Negan/Daryl bottle was the worst rated so far. People say the Daryl bottles never do that great but I don't keep up. What's more interesting is if people don't care enough about Negan to tune in.

    I kind of feel like after such an intense premiere the bottles were a mistake as the next two episodes.
     
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    chasus Awaiting Job from Deanna

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    I agree to do 2 bottle episodes back to back was not the right step. Plus we won't even get to see maggie and says until episode 5!! if anything they could have merged episode 2 and 3 together because the sanctuary did not need an hour long episode to itself
     
  11. Valerie

    Valerie It must have been a good night...
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    We dealt with the premiere we lost 2 family members, I got no patience for bottle episodes. The ratings are not that bad but 2 bottle episodes back to back was just too much for me. I'm just glad we'll finally se how the family is doing this Sunday
     
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    Deep_Ricking I like it raw.
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    Pacing has always been this shows problem. It stales the story. If the staling was more interesting, people wouldn't notice.
     
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    SevenStars Awaiting Job from Deanna

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    Maybe it's cause of the way I'm feeling right now but I won't be surprise if next week's rating is the same or worst than this week's ratings. There are millions of people who are probably not going to be in the mood to see their favorites characters be beat down by a guy who just killed two fan favorites because he could.
     
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    Danaisbestie Rick's ride or die
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    The Well added a few million to their ratings after DVR numbers were added in. The cell will also have a bump from DVR viewers.
     
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    I don't pay much attention to ratings for shows I like, but I always thought its normal for ratings to decrease after the opening episode? Since TWD opened to such massive numbers it's decrease would also seem larger. But I do also suspect it has to do with the general hatred of bottle episodes. While I probably don't hate bottles as much as most viewers (for example, I loved Clear and Here's Not Here), I think they abuse them. Maybe have one or two bottle episodes for the entire season, but not half of the season episodes should be bottles.

    For this season IMO I think we should have gotten one bottle episode focusing on the Sanctuary, following Negan and Carl (yes, I think the storyline should have gone to Carl), and then maybe a Kingdom episode. The Hilltop can be shown along with ASZ in episodes with A plot and B plots alternatively to push forward the story each episode. Also, I think the order in which they decided to start with the bottles is poor choice. Too soon. Everyone wants to see TF, and having two bottles right after another is too much. Episode 2 could have remained a bottle on the Kingdom since it wrapped up the other plot from LDOE and showed us what happened to Carol/Morgan, but episode 3 definitely should have followed TF again. Finally, why is Tara getting a bottle episode? What the hell??? Give her a B plot in an episode focused on TF or something. She does not need an entire 60 minute episode dedicated to her travels. Such an odd choice.
     
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    Lennykae Scott Gimple is the Janet Evanovich of TV.
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    That's kind of what I think. Maybe a small uptick or the same just bc we get to see Rick again. As well as a more direct look into the aftermath of Glenn and Abe's death. I am not a fan Rickless episodes. That drove me batty and almost away in 4B.

    As to the second part. YES. I'm sure most would take TF interacting w/each other dealing with what happened, than yet another episode of Negan abusing them. He can't do this every week he's on.



    Both of these were great episodes, and even though a lot of ppl were thrown off by HNH, I think it was necessary even if it was probably missplaced in the lineup. Other than those two, a lot of BE eps feel like SG just doesn't know how to balance an episode. Then it messes with the timeline bc all of a sudden, a month's worth of eps may only cover less than a week's time.
     
  18. mellowalkerstalker

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    I was not surprised to see that ratings fell for this episode, I kind of expected it. The consensus amongst my twitter friends (i don't know many people outside twitter who actually watch twd) was that they didn't want to see Daryl, Dwight and Negan, they wanted to see TF. Like pretty much everyone has said, 2 bottle episodes back to back was a mistake. We wanted to see how the rest of the lineup were doing, because let's face it, they just had a traumatic experience, they just lost two of their own in a brutal fashion, a child was basically threatened, and of course we love these characters so so much.

    Most of the GA don't care about Dwight, or at least they dislike him because of what he did to Daryl and Denise, and most don't even remember who Sherry was. She was in ONE episode more than half a season ago ffs! I had to explain to my sister who she was lol. So why give us an episode of them instead of TF? Like someone above said, that episode could have been 7x04, as a flashback of what happened to Daryl before Negan's first visit to ASZ.

    And I don't think people are taking well to Negan. He talks too much, he talks like a 13 year old boy, he's over the top - all complaints i've seen online which i have to agree with to be honest! His character does not translate well to screen. Plus he just killed off two great characters, which gives people even less of a reason to like him or to want to watch the show. Again, i know people online who haven't seen any of the episodes since the premiere, and that's mostly because of how the show has treated Glenn. One person told me they had no desire or pull to watch it anymore, so it makes me wonder how many others feel that way.

    Norman Reedus isn't a bad actor but he can't really pull off an episode by himself either, especially when he only had 3 lines of dialogue in the whole thing. He's not a great "face actor" like AL, DG, SMG, LC, etc, so without dialogue - IMHO - he doesn't really convey much emotion. Also it didn't help that you could barely see his face because of the long hair and bad lighting. That kind of ruined the episode for me. The only time I actually felt anything was when he started crying over Glenn. And sorry, this seems to be turning into yet another review for the episode haha. I need to start a blog.

    I almost didn't watch 7x03 myself. Up until the night before I was saying I wasn't going to watch it lol. But I decided I had to because I love TWD and I don't like missing out episodes. Even if I hadn't seen it live, I would have watched it eventually.
     
  19. ShadowSixx

    ShadowSixx Wearing a Necklace of Ears

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    TWD episodes are better when it features multiple family members not just one person. As writers can see mopey Daryl and frat boy Negan aren't strong enough to hold en episode on their own. Maybe fans are now taking the blinders off when it comes to Daryl since he caused Glenn's death and maybe some are just not caring for Daryl anymore. I know I have since he arrived in ASZ.

    It's still strong numbers but writers now should see from the reviews from multiple sites that Daryl episodes always have the word boring in them. I read a couple of reviews for Cell and yeah most of them say boring. We wanna see how the group is as a whole not one person, the group took a huge loss and it will affect Maggie, Sasha, Rick, & Rosita either for the good or bad. I'm just hoping Sasha doesn't become reckless like she did after Tyreese & Bob's deaths.
     
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    candi18z Eating 112 oz. of Pudding

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    It is not rocket science, by now AMC should know that the GA wants to see all of TF in each episode. TWD episodes need to go back to the way they told stories in season 1-3. TF was shown almost in every episode and Rick was the center of every storyline. There is nothing wrong with an episode focusing on supporting characters or new characters as long as TF are featured in the episode. If Gimple insists on doing bottle episodes, he should do about one a season. The episode should air before the midseason finale and all of TF should be featured in some capacity.