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The pregnancy test... (Is Negan infertile?)

Discussion in '7x03: The Cell' started by Doctor Grimes, Nov 7, 2016.

  1. Doctor Grimes

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    So in the episode we see Sherry getting checked out by Dr. Carson and Sherry is having an examination and has taken a pregnancy test. It's negative, and Dwight quips, "Better luck next time."

    What was all this about? Just a sarcastic jab? Or is Negan trying to have kids? What is going on?
     
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    So glad you made a thread about this. It was hella weird. I have a theory about where Negan + baby could lead but it's really kinda crazy so I'm gonna observe ideas in this thread and see if I'm nuts or not later, haha!
     
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    That was my question. And Negan teased Dwight about having her back but then noped the thought out there like he didn't share her at all. Negan might be trying to create an heir.
     
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    I thought it was Dwight showing "loyalty" to Negan in front of an audience by wishing her luck. Had he kept quiet it might appear that it's hitting him hard. I don't think Negan is intentionally trying for a baby.
     
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    But why say, "Better luck next time." That's an odd and pointed statement. It made it seem like she should want to get pregnant. It was very odd and not a throwaway line.
     
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    I thought it was him trying really hard to appear ok with this scenario. But, I'm not gonna lie. It's a VERY weird line. Maybe something will come out of it? :dalewtf:
     
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    The Dr acted like it was no bid deal almost like he gives out test all the time.
     
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    I think Dwight was being a smart ass.
    He's obviously hurt about Negan taking his wife and even though he knows the real reason why Sherry is going along with being Negan's wife, he probably still feels a little betrayed and bitter.
    And as far as Negan goes, I think he wants kids...Making sure his genes carry on into the new world.
     
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    I agree with @Gooey Goobert. Dwight was just trying to act blase about the whole situation.

    It's interesting that Negan has all of these wives and no kids. I don't know if he wants kids, but even if he isn't actively trying for one, I feel like he's the type to not really care if he impregnates a woman or not. With none of his wives being pregnant...I wonder if Negan's infertile? :omg: :negan:
     
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    Well the doctor sounded like a true Negan devotee. The thing is, like Pete, doctors are like rare unicorns and get favourable treatment even from the most despicable characters, even Deanna gave a blind eye to Pete's abuse and the Wolf put aside his "issues" to help save Denise (even though it was so that she could save him)

    "Maybe next time" it seems that Negan is having Sherry tested every month to see if she is pregnant. It only goes to the ego of someone like Negan to want to have an heir to his Kingdom.

    It may also tie into his combative relationship with Rick. Negan seemed to relish taunting Rick regarding his son... we will see Negan's reaction to Judith.
     
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    I thought it was odd that Negan isn't wearing condoms, but initially felt the scene was there to show Negan "takes care of" his women and makes sure they have regular gynecological exams (like prostitutes in Amsterdam's Red Light District). And I figured condoms aren't an item the Saviors can easily get their hands on, especially not the amount Negan needs if he's having sex everyday, or more than once everyday (those poor women!).

    That said, I wasn't sure what Dwight's comment was, so now that I know it was "Better luck next time", I definitely feel it could mean Negan has chosen a wife to impregnate. That would make his fascination with Carl and jealousy/envy of Rick and Carl make a lot of sense.
     
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    It gives me the feeling Negan definitely wants an heir, but maybe he's infertile. But I don't know. It's too early to say yet. But this could make Negan's interest in Rick's kids worse.
     
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    Christine Evangelista (Sherry) said on a Talking Dead it's not a first time Sherry takes a pregnancy test, it's her routine now.
    Maybe Negan really wants babies :cautious:
     
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    I could definitely see a narcissist like Negan wanting to continue his genetic footprint. If he's infertile, it will infuriate him and fuel his anger at the world. This increases the potential for an interesting dynamic between him and Carl, the child and heir apparent to his enemy. Negan will be impressed with Carl's moxie and, in turn, may be even more resentful of Rick, the man who seems to have it all.

    After reading through this thread, I would say this is the one 'good' thing to come out of last night's travesty of an episode.
     
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    Negan being infertile also makes his insecurity all the more apparent. It explains him carrying around a phallic weapon to kill other men with, his asking Dwight about his penis, etc. Negan basically feels like less of a man because he can't produce offspring -- and it burns him up inside. And, in typical insecure bully fashion, he subjugates and emasculates other men to inflate his own self-worth and ego.
     
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    Agreed...if I may be crass, Negan's actions and dialogue make him come across as a man with a very small dick and he's overcompensating. Infertility would also make sense, however, as it would be very emasculating for a man who considers himself a god.
     
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    Yes Negan is trying to have kids. All tyrants want to have as many kids as possible. It would be his legacy. He would be remembered for generations. He wants his DNA to be passed from generation to generation. I think that may be why he has the harem. He can say he fathered tons of children from all nationalities.

    Doc, what makes you think it's Negan who has a problem? Maybe it's sherry who can't conceive? Hmm it would be interesting to see what happens to the women who can't produce him an heir.
     
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    Not Doc, but I think because the fact that there aren't little Negans running around and he's probably established Sanctuary probably around the same time Rick established the Prison says the problem would be on his end. Also the fact that he
    later latches onto Carl as who he wished his child would be like
    tells me that despite being with an array of different women that he's working with no bullets.
     
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    Also that 'Chelle was so desperate to find her boyfriend, who she didn't even like, that she got a finger cut off. Did she need him to protect her baby? Does Negan only want HIS children being born at the sanctuary?