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Discussion in 'Predictions' started by MamaGrimes, Feb 27, 2016.

  1. Tisha Grimes

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    I think all three Queens fit Michonne, Maggie and Carol.
     
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    Film/television is multidimensional the story is being told audio visually. In the case of TWD they have about 40 mins to tell a story. Luckily they are not just limited to the script but they can use wardrobe(when Rick has a clean white t shirt it usually represents he is clear headed, then there is the murder coat which is self explanatory, they can use lighting and shadows, music, background noises. You can always tell if a prop is important because there is something that draws your attention to it like Jesus staring at it and even more so when he actually takes it off the wall That is a red flag saying pay attention to this prop.

    In a good production NOTHING is random. If it is centre screen take note...

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    Look at this they even admitted that it was discussed for a very long time just the positioning of their bodies. But look at props its tells a lot the position of their weapons... but look closer Rick's clothes and belt are on the floor... whereas Machine has at least thrown her's on a chair or something.
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    Michonne is definitely Queen of Spades co-leading with the most "powerful" King of Spades.
     
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    @Barbarossa-TWD I can't see well. What is in the pic between Rick and Michonne? I can only make out two birds.

    So true about props. I have a friend who is a director and he mentions this. Also all of my favorite movies tell the story in a layered way like this. If the queens painting meant nothing, he would not have interacted with it and would be wasted screen time.
     
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    If this is more than likely true and is a foreshadow of things to come, so to speak, then can we not then simply cross M&M off for all possible LV scenarios as they both are destined for a greater role as 2 of the 3 leaders? Or could this be a misdirect and Michonne is not one of the 3?
     
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    I'ma just say this: if Carol's included in the 3 Queens then that means Ezekiel and Carol will probably be a thing instead of Morgan because Ezekiel is DEFINITELY the KING of the Kingdom so IDK how Gimple and co are about to make Carol the leader of the Kingdom but I am NOT here for it.

    All the rest... carry on LOL
     
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    Here I think Carol will take on comic Michonne's relationship with Ezekiel. Morgan may die or move amongst the communities.
     
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    Well considering this painting was highlighted outside the door where she was found sleeping with the King of Spades. This little scene just confirms Michonne position in the hierarchy ... if there was any doubt she is top queen.

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    Queens represent the spiritual nature of man and the principle of birth. They have the authority equal to that of the Kings, proving that actual rulership is both masculine and feminine. They are intuitive, receptive, and cooperative aspect of royalty. Queens are the judges. The Queen of Spades judges by willingness to work and by the degree of devotion in quest for wisdom. They are the disciplinarians.

    The exact place of the Queen of Spades is in a Crown line. They have come to lead and direct. They co-rule with the King of Spades - the card of Wisdom. Queen of Spades are excellent managers of others. They are intuitive, impulsive, and independent. They are valuable contributors to the highest type of accomplishment. And there is significant responsibility that comes along with their planned top position of authority.

    For many Queen Of Spades, it is difficult to find an expression of their Crown Royal position. Until it happens, they find themselves working all sort of jobs beneath their high destiny. The willingness to apply self-discipline set them to the path of their true destiny. Self-mastery is pre-requisite symbolized by this card. They have a direct access to spiritual pool of wisdom and should use their amazing potential to achieve great results - on both spiritual and practical levels.

    Queen of Spades are quick learners. Restless and inquiring, they tend to make many experiments before settling on a career. They usually understand the necessity for education and training. Teaching and healing are the powerful sides of Queen of Spades. The women, as a rule, have masculine attitudes of mind and habits of thinking. Queen Of Spades can make
    good physicians - never over sympathetic, but well grounded in knowledge and skill. They must guide against secretiveness and concealment of the things that should be brought to light.

    A high degree of intuition may be developed. Queen Of Spades should avoid the law, but must train their minds in logic and reason. Positive attitude is a must to keep themselves healthy.

    Queen Of Spades appreciate quality of things and have a rather extravagant taste. They often have some creative talent. In youth, these may manifest as a talent in acting, singing or dancing. They may develop a great inspirational writing ability later in life.

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    King of Spades is a Crown authority of Wisdom and Mastery. King of Spades represents the ultimate spiritual energy and wisdom. The recognition of this highest potential and directing their powers into constructive expression can be the toughest call. Natural leaders with no limits to what can be accomplished, most King of Spades stay in the shade of life.

    Some of King of Spades people are big enough to meet their opportunities. Through suffering and the hard road to wisdom, they make it to the final: Rulership. They have a power because they have earned it. They usually don't talk much about it, remaining mystery to the rest of the world. Because they don't brag, they are often not recognized, and because they are preachers and teachers of the great truths of the resurrection, rebirth, and eternal life, they are called fanatics.

    When these Spades have reached the King stage, it matters not at all to them what they are called or how they are treated. The King Of Spades has no alternate; he is fixed and unmovable, free to move to any position in life to be more efficient, and never separated from his great wisdom or high crown.

    Desire for love combined with uncertainty and indecision in personal affairs create a life-long emotional conflict, always disturbing to the required regulation of mental attitudes. If marriage is not entered into early in life, there are likely to be no marriage at all.


    Many King of Spades remain in the world and very much of it. They are ambitious, self-protective, capable of living and enjoying life to the fullest. They may not go far in terms of their high calling, but they manage to leave an imprint in their chosen line and seldom sink to lowness or meanness or deliberate evil.
     
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    Merging with the old thread with this topic. :)
     
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    Actually they are really good at using props in the background to foreshadow future stories. They did it with both the Terminus story (note the paintings in the house Carl and Michonne enter and how many upcoming story events are foreshadowed there) as well the road to ASZ story (In "Strangers" when they walk into the church characters encounter paintings and sayings that reflect their future story). Even the Jessie story was foreshadowed in the use of the owl for her (Owls symbolize the link between the living and the dead and Sam literally destroyed an owl which foreshadowed him getting Jessie killed).

    So most paintings, if they have a character focus on it or linger on it, usually are foreshadowing future events in the show.

    ETA: Just to show what I'm talking about:

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    From Bustle

    There was even a painting that they saw that had a dog in it which foreshadowed what would happen in Daryl and Beth's story and how they get separated.

    And of course the really big example with poor Tyreese after he's bitten.

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    Ya cus michonne was all tired of fighting at this pt blah blah blah.

    And I refuse to hear anything abt morgan dying LOL if he dies he was literally used to serve Carols plot and Ill b super annoyed lol

     
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    What is your take on the drawing of the baby above the drawing of a castle in the season 6 finale. The pictures show up in a scene with Morgan and Carol in the library. The picture syou posted above of Michonne holding that paining of the Terminus matriarch makes me believe Glenn and MAggie's baby will survive and the three will live in and rule Hilltop.
     
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    Or it could be that the baby is the cost of ruling. Maggie has been saying a lot of things about leaving stuff behind and wanting to take her responsibilities as a leader seriously. But the implication of that is that it will cost her something. That wanting to rule, wanting to be a leader, is costly for her and the price of power will either be her baby or her husband. That's my thoughts on it.
     
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    Very interesting take on it. Thanks.
     
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    I just realised that Carol and Michonne have lost their only child does this foreshadow Maggie losing hers?
     
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    Oh, wow, good point. I'd love to know if this means something, or if it's based on some history. Maggie's the youngest of the 3 queens, so maybe she manages to keep her child? Or maybe there's some meaning to 3 childless queens bonding over their grief? But there is a difference: Both Carol and Michonne had some time with their children. Carol's daughter was older than Michonne's son, so maybe that has some significance, too? Each queen had a little bit less time with their child? Or maybe I'm just reaching because I'm so desperate for spoilers?
     
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    Perhaps Maggie has perfected the balance because she is also in balance with Glenn. Think about it was Michonne on a run and the two guys at camp when her baby died. Also it was after Carol's husband was killed that her daughter died. These were Unbalanced relationships. The reason that Carl and to some extent Judith ha survived this far is because Rick has a balanced relationship with Michonne. He could have died at the prison if it weren't for her and in turn that protected Carl because he would have been alone. They both went after the claimers Rick killed 2 and Michonne killed 2 Uncle Daryl killed 1. If Michonne wasn't there to cut a path for Rick to get Carl to Denise he would have never survived.

    Maggie has this balance with Glenn and hopefully seeing the bigger picture Glenn survives.

    Speaking of babies

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    What's up with this? Will Morgan and Carol have a baby?

    The New World needs babies which is why I want Richonne to have a baby.


    I just saw this and she says something very interesting about the old world versus the new world woman.


     
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    But this is also why I don't want Abe and Sasha to die because they seem to be another King and Queen in the making by coming to all sorts of self realisations. Compare that to Rosita and Spencer and ALL of the Savior couples we have heard about...

    Even in his weird way Daryl was making Beth into a warrior princess.
     
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    Such good points about balance. In your case for balance, Glenn would have to survive to keep the balance, or he would have to die so his baby can take his place, possibly. And now that Michonne has found her own balance, she would be able to conceive and keep a child because of Rick.

    There are many signs that babies and children are on Gimple's mind for the future of the series. There is, of course, Maggie's pregnancy and the picture/drawing of the baby you attached above (which I had always assumed was meant to be Glenn and Maggie's baby because of his hair, but the coloring of his skin could also mean he's an Abe/Sasha or Rick/Michonne baby.) And then there's Abe's realization that he would like to start a family with Sasha. Judith is still alive, despite being dead in the graphic novel. And, we learned last week, Rick possibly imagines Sasha (or someone else) pregnant during his hallucination, as well as Glenn and Maggie's kid as a toddler.

    I asked someone in a different thread here about her take on the baby drawing because she believes Maggie will lose her baby. She made a very good case for what the pic could mean in relation to the pic of the castle below it and a miscarriage. I think it was Maggie taking her place as queen of Hilltop leading to a release of her baby, or sacrifice? I wish I remembered where this was, possibly in this thread but I'm not sure.

    I also watched that video and remember liking it, but even though it was just yesterday, I don't remember what she said about the new world women. Maybe I will watch again.
     
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    As for the video she says that the traditional women who seek men to protect them...die i.e. Lori, Jesse and to some extent Andrea. The self realised warrior women survive I would add that the future lies in women like Michonne, Maggie, Carol, Sasha because they also except nothing less in a partner. The Savior couples were a mess yes they were all warriors but they didn't respect each other.
    It was my feeling that the picture of the castle was of the Kingdom not Hilltop, we see Morgan and Carol going there.