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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Doctor Grimes, Jul 21, 2016.

  1. GrimesGurl

    GrimesGurl Spooning with Rick
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    Sorry, what's so controversial about this statement?? I don't think Rick and Michonne made love in that cell either. Frankly, I'm getting tired of speculation around / desire for raunchy Richonne sex. I loved their kiss in the cell because, for me, it was more of a make up kiss, relief and confirmation that they are still 'ride-or-die' for each other. Sex does not have to follow.
     
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    GrimesGurl Spooning with Rick
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    I actually have a few unpopular TWD opinions...they might change with 7B but so far:

    1. TWD feels like a different show now and not in a good way. I think someone mentioned earlier on this thread that the writers seem to be trading quick action scenes for character development and that, for me, is ruining the tone of the show.

    2. Richonne is dying on the vine for me! I know. I know but just hear me out! For me, the show / the writers are just not doing Rick and Michonne justice! I am getting impatient for a meaningful storyline for the two of them; they are together, yes, they are a couple, yes. AL and DG say their characters love each other, fine. But...Why?! DG has been able to discuss Michonne's love for Rick eloquently but AL just gets quoted as saying the same damn thing: "its a natural, adult relationship" WTF does that mean?

    3. 7A is quickly turning into my least favorite season to date! I remain dumbfounded at how the show has handled the LV aftermath. Once the LV happened, the show just moved on. How did Maggie actually get to the Kingdom? How did the Alexandrians react to TF coming back bloodied and shell shocked? What did Maggie say to Daryl? Did she blame him for Glenn's death? What did Daryl say to her? So much opportunity lost there!

    4. I am worried about 7 x 12. From the spoilers it sounds like they're going to have this mad sex in some run down school. Somehow that does not sound very sexy to me, especially given the uneven way they're developing Rick and Michonne's relationship. It even sounds a bit risky in that it could debase their relationship rather than confirm it.

    5. It bothers me that DG and AL are not interviewed together. I've posted about this before but its really starting to bug me. And most of all [I am sorry my Love] but AL's seeming inability to articulate the importance of Richonne is bugging the shit out of me!

    OK, that's off my chest! :lol:. I do have high hopes for 7B and hope that all gets reconciled but so far, I'm like :michonneeye:
     
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  3. lovingdead

    lovingdead The New Mrs. Grimes

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    Interesting perspectives.

    1. I get what you are saying and hope they correct this soon.

    2. In all fairness they have been together on the show maybe two weeks. I'm not sure what some people are expecting. Same with 6b and people saying they were ignored. I feel like a lot has happened in those two weeks between them but also a lot of external variables are at play. What kind of arc do you think should have happened?

    I think a lot did happen and their relationship was central to the drama. I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say I think some fans are expecting extensive focus on them beyond what fits the narrative at some points. I think 7b will focus more on them but it's not like the show is going to make it all about their relationship.

    I also don't think they need any explanation of their relationship, their relationship speaks for itself as it is being portrayed. I'm not sure we need the actors analyzing it in detail to support its depth and relevance. I rarely see that about tv couples. I used to ship a couple on another huge show and the actors talked about the relationship but it was never like these in depth analysis.

    ETA: I'm not saying more in depth conversation about it isn't welcomed but it isn't necessary in understanding their love story. I think the "why" is there in their whole journey to where they are now. We will get more depth as they go.

    3. Agreed

    4. Somewhat agree. I think it will be great but I do have a small fear of it turning into the Richonne porno and I'm not here for that.

    5. Maybe they will do an interview together at some point? It would be cool. I feel like that would be a great opportunity to get more about them from AL and DG. That would be awesome. I just don't think the lack of more in depth discussion on it is making the ship less poignant.
     
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  4. Walkingonsunshine

    Walkingonsunshine The Ones Who Live
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    :lol: "mad sex" . You guys kill me. It's AMC as much as we all talk about the sexy times and have fun with it I highly doubt the scene will be obscene at all. Gimple is a prude and AMC is a bunch of haters. 712 is basically 45 mins of Richonne so I'm looking forward to see all the stuff they talk about and the thangs they get into when they are finally on a run alone without any third or fourth wheels.
     
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    accioval Watchtower Sniper

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    My unpopular opinion is that I've never shipped Glenn and Maggie. I thought there were cute, fun, and young; but, there was something missing for me.
     
  6. slade3

    slade3 The New Mrs. Grimes
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    Yeah,
    there are expectations, but a lot of our sex talk is really in good fun! I want a "real" sex scene, but I've been clear I don't want anything like that Gleggie sex in the watch tower, and I definitely don't want to see Michonne grab Rick's crotch in a car like Shane and Andrea.

    What has me most excited about the episode - and where my hopes are most likely to be dashed enormously - is the possibility of a serious talk between Rick and Michonne about their feelings for each other and Michonne's past (including Andre, and whether Rick knows because Michonne told him offscreen, or he figured it out), and the possibility of an "I love you".
     
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    I agree!
     
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    GrimesGurl Spooning with Rick
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  9. Doctor Grimes

    Doctor Grimes Not Your Governor
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    Guys, please remember to tag spoilers.
     
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    GrimesGurl Spooning with Rick
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    Sorry Doc, I didn't even think about that! Thanks for the reminder!
     
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  11. Doctor Grimes

    Doctor Grimes Not Your Governor
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    It's no problem! Just helps to remind people about the spoilers.
     
  12. lovingdead

    lovingdead The New Mrs. Grimes

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    I want to respond to this but may move it to the Richonne discussion thread, so we don't hijack this one. Also, others may not see your response @GrimesGurl. It appears like you quoted my post but it's not obvious that your response is included in the quote.
     
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    GrimesGurl Spooning with Rick
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    OK, thanks Loving! yeah, I had some problem posting yesterday. I will try to re-post
     
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    I think I love you!
     
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    Philly Girl Awaiting Job from Deanna

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    Speaking as a parent Carl better not leave that house unless it's on fire. He has to clean that kitchen, the bathroom and scrub the porch. He also better not leave his sister alone since he assisted getting the babysitter killed. Carl should be giving Rick a lot of space about now.
     
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    walkinggirl26 Rick's Right-Hand Woman
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    I'm trying to tamp down any overhypeness -- I just made that up, lol! -- for 7.12, but when I think back to knowing what was going to happen in 6.10 and how the Q and A's and summaries never do Richonne justice, it's always gone above and beyond what I've expected. So while I'm not expecting HBO type of scenes, I do have faith in AL and DG doing what they usually do and knocking it out the park with their Rick and Michonne scenes. I get all warm and fuzzy feels just seeing them together. Heck, I remember hyperventilating any time they did one of their epic stares or them just being in the same scene together precanon, and the couch and hand holds and hugs and kisses have nearly done me in, so whatever we get, I'm sure it will send me over the moon. But it has become somewhat of a snowball, and it's everywhere. You just have to say 7.12, and pretty much everyone knows what you're talking about, shipper and nonshipper alike. That's a lot of pressure:omgno::yell:
     
  17. ReeciePiecey

    ReeciePiecey Nestled in Rick's Beard
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    My unpopular opinion is that I'm sure 7.12 will be awesome to me and I will watch it over and over again. I don't really have any expectations. Every time a Richonne spoiler has come out the reality of what I see on my screen is always much better and beyond my expectations. I don't have any goals for the episode I just want them to stay in character and do them and I will be pleased.
     
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    GrimesGurl Spooning with Rick
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    I'm not sure what is happening but I've tried to re-post twice and each time I get an error message saying I need to sign in again. When I do my post is gone. Anyway, not a big deal :). If only 2 weeks have passed since Rick and Michonne got together in 6x10 then that makes a difference but the evolution of their romance since then - as much as I love and live for it - has felt disjointed to me. As you said, a lot has happened between R&M but we wouldn't know that, because we haven't seen any of it. There's a lot of story to tell on TWD yadda yadda yadda...that's all fine but not even the promotion seems to have shifted into higher gear in response to the new status of Richonne - all energy went to the Hilltop and then, of course, Negan. I'm not saying that their relationship doesn't make sense nor that the show needs to be about them, that would be silly. I just would just like a more thoughtful progression. That seems to be happening a little bit starting with Michonne's beautiful speech in the cell in 7x8 (finally, as DG said, Michonne has found her words!) The show needs to keep it going!
     
  19. Riko813

    Riko813 Nestled in Rick's Beard

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    I liked 7a. It showed Rick and TF at their lowest point. In no other season have they been so low and so shattered. They are scattered physically and mentally from each other. Doing things as individuals and not the cohesive unit they are used to being. In 7a Rick once more has to turn inward and find the overwhelming strength to submit himself to Negan for the benefit of his family and the Alexandrians. Rick goes through a long Journey of self sacrifice and of self discovery that he isn't the biggest baddest thing in this universe and he can not by himself solve the problems of his family. He learns that Michonne is his true soulmate and that she is with him always. That she will be by his side through the worst of things and she will not belittle or blame him like Lori did. When I watch the cell scene, I notice that Rick is waiting for Michonne to blame him for the bad that has happened. He is waiting for her to belittle him and to put the all the weight of fixing their problems on his shoulder. Instead Michonne is loving, understanding, supportive, tender and doesn't lay blame. She is their to help him carry the burden of leadership. To be his help mate. When he sees and understands this he is truly overwhelmed with love and happiness.

    This is a weird thing for me to say but Rick had been like a battered husband when he was with Lori. Lori's words and tones were like mental fist blows. She demeaned him so much and made him feel so low so many times that he got used to the treatment and expected to be treated like he was by any woman he was with. Rick was battered man. He expected Michonne to treat him the same way but she didn't and he was surprised and overjoyed by the way she loved him. No blame, no demanding he shoulder everything on his own (WE).

    The growth of Richonne in 7a into something legendary was a joy to behold and gives me something to look forward too in 7b.

    As for TF seeing them all go through their journeys of self discovery was something wonderful to behold. Rosita got a bigger arc than in previous seasons. Sasha got more character development too and she wasn't portrayed as the hot head as she was protrayed in the past seasons. Eugene stepped up in the bravery department again. Father Gabriel became more likeable and more of a member of TF. Aaron's role increased. Maggie is being groomed to take over the Hilltop. Carl is becoming a man. I love seeing more of Michonne's tender side with Rick. She is fully opened up to love(loving and being loved by Rick). Morgan on his own Journey of self awareness and discovery. Carol trying to find meaning to her world and how to live in it. Daryl changing becoming harder towards his enemies, having a darker outlook towards the world yet also being loving to TF.

    7a has been good, even with its flaws. Its sets up 7b perfectly. The phoenix has risen out of the ashes and now is ready to tear Negan a new AH.XD
     
  20. MrsG

    MrsG The New Mrs. Grimes

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    It's been longer than two weeks between 6X10 and 7X8. I'm certain. It appears, less Negan means more screentime for our lovelies. 7B will hopefully be full of significant Richonne discussion. Fingers crossed.
     
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